tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3212747024604809827.post3461534894905771385..comments2017-12-09T22:35:52.555+08:00Comments on Fiat Volvntas Tua: 3rd refutation of the CARM series critical of the ChurchFr. Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01591981421166316816noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3212747024604809827.post-49190898847203569162015-06-19T23:46:19.831+08:002015-06-19T23:46:19.831+08:00Wow... that's a long winded attempt to defeat ...Wow... that's a long winded attempt to defeat the CARM argument. I hadn't heard of CARM or these arguments before and want to thank you for directing me to this page and the discussion.<br /><br />Criticism #1.. you especially like the leap that a sinless person doesn't need a saviour! Uh? That doesn't seem like a leap more like a fact. What does a saviour do except save? Had Adam and Eve never sinned would they have needed a Saviour. More to the point what does the bible teach about our Saviour? He died to save us from our SINS.<br /><br />Criticism #3. I particularly love this one and the comparison to kneeling down to pray next to a bed. Frankly its ridiculous and the idea that anyone would make the comparison between a representation of a person positioned in a holy place where people face the object to pray being anything like a bed in a private place being next to you whilst you pray is wonderful mental somersaulting. Wow!<br /><br />Criticism #4. The idea that thinking about Mary doesn't detract from Jesus or asking Mary to pray for us doesn't detract from God is to my mind totally illogical and unbiblical. The plain and obvious reality is that we have a finite amount of resource... time, money, concentration, etc. Any time spent on anything other than Jesus is less time to spend on Jesus. Irrespective of the fact that we can't spend all our time praying to Jesus, there is no question that ALL the time anyone spends asking Mary could be spent with Jesus. In that sense it's irrefutable that Mary detracts from God. Additionally this position clear... "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment."<br /><br />Criticism #6.. Whilst there is some agreement here, I cannot fathom how you can assert that rejecting the belief that Mary was sinless and a perpetual virgin means rejecting her son. There's biblical evidence this is true or even that the earliest believers in say Corinth ever accepted such notions.<br /><br />I wonder if this response will be published or binned as it doesn't agree with you!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3212747024604809827.post-31838349993043301442010-03-06T09:45:30.683+08:002010-03-06T09:45:30.683+08:00Thank you so much, Father! I recently had a debate...Thank you so much, Father! I recently had a debate with a Protestant and he constantly cited CARM. All of these refutations have helped me so much, and he is actually very convinced. Thank you again for everything you are doing to protect the true faith.<br /><br />May God bless you and the work you are doing for His Church,<br />- MichaelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3212747024604809827.post-57520939784697603022010-02-25T13:28:14.483+08:002010-02-25T13:28:14.483+08:00Catholic beliefs about Mary were an obstacle in my...Catholic beliefs about Mary were an obstacle in my own journey to the Catholic Church. I was actually convinced about the legitimacy of the Catholic Church before I accepted the teachings on Mary. I remember praying to God in submission to join the Catholic Church and praying that He would have to reveal the truth about Mary later. Later eventually did come. <br /><br />God set apart places for himself in the Old Testament. The Holy of Holies in the Temple was the house of God. The High Priest could only enter once a year and had to go through a week-long purification beforehand. <br /><br />Why would God not also set aside the person whom he would be living in for 9 months? The more I thought about it, the more I realized it would not be any other way. God would only come into this world through a holy vessel. <br /><br />That led me to accept the teaching of Mary's perpetual virginity. God does not give over to man what he has set aside for himself. Mary would be defiled in a real way had Joseph taken her and conceived other children. Not to mention the problems it would have raised for the claim of a Virgin birth to contemporaries when a parade of other children were following around.Jasonhttp://semperjase.comnoreply@blogger.com