27 July, 2009

Discussion with richardatf with continued personal attacks

(richardatf) Picking the questions and issues I pose that are convenient for you, then responding to them on your blog is hiding from the issues. Plus you do not answer them directly.

(Cristoiglesia) I am answering every one of your questions directly.

(richardatf) By what authority has the catholic church changed the observance to Saturday? answer directly

(Cristoiglesia) By the direct authority of Jesus.

Matt 16:19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Mat 18:18 "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Mat 16:19 gives an important additional element which clarifies what binding and loosing means. It says Matt 16:19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

(richardatf) Was Jesus sent to a burning hell? Answer directly


(richardatf) I tire of this, all I ever get from catholic priests is obfuscation, catechisms, and mistranslations of scripture. It would appear the catholic faith as a whole is incapable of utilizing a Strongs Concordance to learn the meaning of words.

(Cristoiglesia) No, there is no obfuscation, mistranslations or lack of understanding for the original languages. I really do not need Strongs to interpret because I have an education in biblical languages.

(richardatf) Perhaps you consider me harsh and not very Christlike in my demeanor to you.

(Cristoiglesia) Truly you speak! Your impolite bluster belies your frustration and lack of confidence.

(richardatf) Let me tell you, I have nothing against the people in the catholic church. There are many who believe in Christ Jesus with all their hearts and minds and souls. What is unfortunate is the system that teaches these poor souls to worship in a manner that God will not accept. And you teach this system.

(Cristoiglesia) Really, your attitude towards Christ’s Church and its faithful in conjunction with your blatant lies and innuendos against the Church puts the veracity of your statements into great question. Instead you come across as an ignorant, hateful, bigoted, judgmental, arrogant and prideful tool of Satan. The “system” you speak of is the system that was founded by Jesus and the disciples with the promise that it will endure for all time free from apostasy and is the “pillar and foundation of the truth.”

(richardatf)You have nothing against people bowing to statues of Mary (your words). The crux of our argument is this idolatry. And it does not matter what YOU think idolatry is, it matters what God thinks it is. He has made it clear what it is and you continue in it. God will judge you, and I have warned you.”

(Cristoiglesia) No I do not as long as the focus of all worship is towards our Lord and Savior. I agree that it is our Lord that will judge and not you from your own prejudice and hatred. God knows the heart of men and not you who is lost in your own arrogance and hatred. You are the victim of false teachers because you are like those that Jesus prophesied about who can no longer endure sound doctrine and have gathered around them teachers who satisfy their itching ears. Jesus says that at judgment that these will be treated as if He never knew them and they will be thrown into the lake of fire for eternity.

(richardatf)Keep your "god bless"es to yourself, for your god is not my God. I want nothing to do with your false gods, and you have many.

(Cristoiglesia) No, I worship one God of the Trinity. The Bible teaches me to bless and pray for those who hate me and the Church.

Mat 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

"Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God. Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves." Romans 13:1-2

"He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me." (Mt 10:40)
"He who hears you hears Me, and he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me." (Lk 10:16)

(richardatf) But do not think you have answered anything satisfactorily.

(Cristoiglesia) Absolutely!

God bless!

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

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