03 August, 2009

Discussion with 'maters Granny on the teaching of the Jehovah Witnesses

(‘maters Granny) I am a former Catholic.

(Cristoiglesia) I am pleased that you once were exposed to the fullness of truth that is contained within Christ’s own Church. That is a true blessing that so many people are not blessed to receive. I assume that your family was Catholic and reared you in the truth before you fell away from the truth of Christianity and was seduced by the heresy of Arius.

Hebrews 6:4-6 (King James Version)

4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Matthew 10:33 (King James Version)

33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

(‘maters Granny) Open your mind, your eyes and your ears. Sit and talk with Jehovah's Witnesses.

(Cristoiglesia) I take every opportunity to talk with Jehovah Witnesses as well as your schismatic sects like Iglesia ni Cristo and Ang Dating Daan and share with them the truth of the Gospel through the teaching of Christ’s own Church. Even those who have fallen away from the faith delivered to all are worthy of the truth contained in its fullness in Christ’s Church. There is always hope in Christ for even those who have been the victims of the false teachers and ravenous wolves of the world who seek to separate the faithful from the truth.

(‘maters Granny) Your learning came from man not God. Your very life depends on listening with open ears, heart and mind. Pray, earnestly to Jehovah in Jesus's name for guidance and direction.

(Cristoiglesia) I will pray to God in the Trinity as this is the truth revealed to Christ’s Church through the Holy Spirit which guides the Church to all truth as Jesus promised. To pray to Jesus only denies the very nature of God who is one in three persons and is a perversion of the teaching of our Lord and His disciples through Christ’s Church.

I have listened to your doctrines of men and have studied the perverse teaching of your leadership in your man-made sect that denies the very divinity of our Lord and found it to be the doctrines of devils. Satan is clever to destroy the testimony of our Lord the disciples and His Church by denying the authority of Jesus and putting into question His atoning work on the Cross by denying that He is the Lamb of God who came to save the world and calling Him a created creature and incarnation of the Angel Michael instead of Almighty God Himself the uncreated and perfect God. This perversion cannot come from the imagination of man but from the very depths of the hell that you deny and also the author of lies and confusion.

('maters Granny) My pity lies with you and those like you. The churches are full of lies and they willingly feed these to the flocks. May Jehovah have mercy on your very soul as you, as Paul did, believe you are doing right attacking his very people.

(Cristoiglesia) Daniel 7:25 (King James Version)

25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Jesus founded a Church based on His own veracity through His promises. He promised that His Church will be the enduring Church that will never fall into apostasy saying that the gates of hell will never prevail against it.

Matthew 16:18 (King James Version)

18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

He said that this Church is the Church that He will be with until the end of time.

Matthew 28:20 (King James Version)

20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

He compares His Church as a shining city on a hill as an example to the world and His faithful as the salt and light of the earth in His great Sermon on the Mount.

Matthew 5:14 (King James Version)

13Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
The Church is the ark of salvation.

1 Peter 3:18-21 (King James Version)

18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

The Bible says that His Church is the Pillar and foundation of the truth.

1 Timothy 3:15 (King James Version)

15But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

I do not attack His people but instead pray for His mercy for those who have fallen away from the truth contained in His Church to satisfy their itching ears because they can no longer endure sound doctrine. They gather around them false teachers and form their own perversion of the Church founded by our Lord and call it good. But this church of men teaching its doctrines of men simply feeds the most carnal of desires and the darkness of the soul which is their pride and arrogance. They have usurped the very authority of the most high God for the authority of man but His kingdom is not of the world and those who through syncretism join their faith to the world will be lost in that they deny Christ and He who sent Him.

(‘maters Granny) Paul turned around from his wrong, hopefully you will also. For what reason did you go from Protestant to Catholic? Why did you not heed the admonition to "get out of her my people," referring to those involved in false worship? You went from the Harlot to mother of the Harlots.

(Cristoiglesia) I could do worse than following St. Paul. I left the Protestant faith because I realized that Jesus founded only one Church and endowed that Church all of His veracity. It truly is the fullness of truth In Christ. He prayed His last prayer before His arrest and crucifixion that we all be one in His Church just as He and the Father are one. I knew by this that to be in His will is to be faithful to His Church and not to the man-made imitations. Indeed one should reject false teaching and His Church is truly the Ark of Salvation where one is assured of the truth by Christ’s promises to His Church. Jesus founded one Church and one truth contained in that one enduring Church. His Church is spotless just as He is the spotless Lamb of God. When you attack His Church calling it vile names you attack Christ Himself. May He have mercy on you.

('maters Granny) Trintiy, hellfire. and immortal soul are false teachings. Scripture tells us the dead are unconscious, in a state opposite of life. Eccl 9:5.
The lie Satan told Eve lives on with the Churches as there is no immortal soul. Death is the wage of sin. Jehovah is a loving, merciful God and he does not lie. On the other hand man's teachings are packed with lies and displeasing to God and his Son, Jesus.

(Cristoiglesia) The matter of the Trinity was settled by the Church in addressing the heresy at the Council of Nicaea in 325. Arius lost to the Holy Spirit leading the Church but Satan continues the same lies through the Jehovah Witness sect and its evil spawns the Iglesia ni Cristo and Ang Dating Daan.

There are two eternal destinations of our eternal soul which are Heaven and Hell. All of the denying in the world will not keep Hell from being the reality of some souls. The fact is that the denial of hell makes it more of a possible reality as it begins a slippery slide from the truth contained in the teaching of Christ through His Church and into apostasy. Denial of the immortal soul is a denial of the justice and mercy of God. When the Bible speaks of the dead it is speaking of one being dead In Christ and undeserving of eternal life, which would indicate that they would be worthy of an eternity in hell. This is the case of those spoken of in Ecclesiastes 9:5.

Certainly the teaching of the Jehovah Witnesses are “Man’s” teaching from a man-made sect more influenced by Satan than Jesus. You will pride fully call yourself Christian while at the same time denying the very nature of God in the Trinity and call Jesus the created Archangel Michael and not God in the Trinity which denies the very atoning work of our Lord for He cannot be the Lamb of God and not be the perfect sacrifice prophesied in His Word. Christ is the Word made flesh who saved the world from the guilt and penalty of sin.

God bless!

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

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